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Dr. Fauci Says: I Trust The Scientists In China

The infectious disease expert spoke out about Wuhan.
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Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and a member of the White House COVID-19 Response Team, joined Joe Madison on SiriusXM Urban View to address how COVID-19 has disparately affected Black and Latino Americans and to encourage people to commit to reversing those disparities in the future. They also discussed when young children will be able to get vaccinated, and new questions about how the virus originated. Read on for excerpts of the interview, including Fauci's thoughts on China, from SiriusXM's The Joe Madison Show. And to ensure your health and the health of others, don't miss these Sure Signs You Had COVID And It's Still Wrecking Your Body.


Dr. Fauci: I Trust The Scientists In China, "They Have Been Of Good Faith"

Asian microbiologist biotechnology researcher using microscope in the lab.

JOE MADISON, HOST: Wuhan laboratory is all the debate now. Why is it important Dr. Fauci, that we now, and should we be focusing on this controversy about the laboratory in China? I know we can chew gum and walk at the same time, but on a scale of, I don't know, one to 10, how important is it that we continue this controversy or this discussion?

ANTHONY FAUCI: Well, you want to make sure that you have lessons learned if you know the origin, which right now there's a lot of discussion about getting to understand more fully what the origin of this particular outbreak is. Many of us, myself included, feel still that it is much more likely that it was a natural occurrence from a jumping species, from an animal host to a human. But we can't say that we're a hundred percent certain. And it's important to find out in order to prevent these types of things in the future. And for that reason, this hypothesis, that it might have leaked out of a lab, is something that you want to see if you can investigate that in a fair, unbiased, scientifically sound way, and I guess that's what's going on now. Unfortunately, it becomes a little bit politicized if not a lot politicized, but it is important to know the origin, because if you do, you may be able to prevent things like this from happening in the future.

MADISON: Do you trust the scientists, your colleagues? You have to work with them in China. Do you trust them to be honest and forthcoming?

FAUCI: Well, yeah. Yeah, I think that you have to have a difference between the scientists in China and the Chinese government. I don't have much insight into the latter. We've worked with Chinese scientists for decades and decades, in a collaborative manner with influenza, with bird flu, with a variety of other diseases. And our experience with the scientists have been that they have been of good faith, they're talented, many of them have made major accomplishments in science, and that's the reason why we've worked with them.


Dr. Anthony Fauci Says We Shouldn't Get Too Comfortable "Until We Have Crushed The Outbreak"

Young caucasian woman wearing surgical gloves putting face mask on, protection from spread of Coronavirus

MADISON: And the one concern that we discuss here on The Joe Madison Show is, are we getting too comfortable now? I've been vaccinated. I find myself wearing a mask. Sometimes I don't know when to wear it, when not to wear it and the concern that we often have among our callers is are we getting too comfortable? Is it too early to be too comfortable with where we are now with this pandemic?

FAUCI: Well, certainly we should never feel comfortable about this until we have actually crushed this outbreak. We are going very much in the right direction. We have 50% of the adult population is fully vaccinated and over 60% of the adult population have had at least one dose. The number of cases per day are going down, but you don't want to be complacent. We have to continue to get people vaccinated. And those who are not vaccinated should continue to follow the guidelines of the CDC. So, I totally agree with you and encourage everyone who's listening that we can't be complacent about this until we've essentially gotten the level of infection dramatically lower than it is now., Even though it's going in the right direction, we don't want to declare victory prematurely.

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Dr. Fauci Says Children of Any Age Can Likely Get the Vaccine by the End of the Year

Child with face mask getting vaccinated

MADISON: Let me personalize it. I've got a soon to be 15-year-old grandson, and I've got grand babies that are – one's four and the other is seven. So should I be encouraging their parents to have them vaccinated?

FAUCI: Well, you'll have to break it down into the age group. So let me explain. Right now we have 12 to 15-year-olds that are able to be vaccinated by the Pfizer, and now Moderna has also now shown that in the 12 to 17-year- old, because prior to this, their clinical trial went down to 18. The Pfizer clinical trial went down to 16, but now both have gone from 12 and older. So right now, is it your 15-year-old grandson that you said?

MADISON: Yes. Soon to be 15, right.

FAUCI: That young man is able to get vaccinated now. The younger of the group in your family, right now we're doing what's called an age de-escalation study just to nail down to make sure that the vaccine is safe and effective in these individuals, which we have every reason to believe that it will be – those studies are ongoing now. And I would imagine that the younger members in your family, clearly the 15-year-old can get vaccinated right now, but younger members in your family as we get into the next several months, because these types of studies are going on. And I would hope that as we get towards the end of this calendar year, that children of any age will be able to be vaccinated, but you don't want to do that until you get sufficient data to feel comfortable about it. But we have every reason to believe given the extraordinary track record of these vaccines, that we will be able to vaccinate children of any age before we get to the end of the year.


How to Stay Safe Until The End of All This

Doctor holding syringe in hospital.

No matter where the virus came from, it remains a danger. So follow Fauci's fundamentals and help end this pandemic, no matter where you live—get vaccinated; wear a face mask that fits snugly and is double layered, wherever masks are necessary; practice good hand hygiene, and to protect your life and the lives of others, use caution in any of these 35 Places You're Most Likely to Catch COVID.

Alek Korab
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